(Fwd) Church Mailing list

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Date sent: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:19:34 +0200
Subject: Mailing list
From: “St.Nicholas of Japan O C Brixton-JHB”
To: undisclosed-recipients:;

Dear Parishioners of St Nicholas

This is the second reminder that our mailing list is being updated, so that we
don’t send mail to people who do not want to receive it. Unless you have
recently started receiving mail i.e. in the last 2 months, or unless you have
recently indicated your wish to continue receiving mail, please can you reply
to this e-mail address. A new list will be compiled, and anyone who does not
respond will automacally be deleted within the next 2 months.

Many thanks

Georgia Jammine

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Herbert family of Manchester

My great great grandmother was Adelaide Herbert (1831-1909) of Manchester, who married John Bagot Cottam. She was the daughter of Reuben Herbert and Ellen Jackson. I’ve recently been trying to follow up her brothers and sisters, and the attached list of Herbert descendants is an interim result. The list is fairly speculative, and not all the links have been proved — at least not to my satisfaction. For example, the second child of Reuben and Ellen Herbert is listed as Reuben Thomas Herbert, born in Middlesex and then transported to Australia. But the eldest child, Elianor, who died young, was born in Manchester, and then the next youngest was born in Belfast. I suppose it is possible that the family moved from Manchester to London before going to Belfast, but I’d like to see a baptism record for Reuben Thomas Herbert to see who his parents were. If anyone has links to this family, please get in touch with me.

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HerbertDesct.pdf (14 KB)

New cousins discovered: Chaffey and Pearse

Quite early on in our family history research I discovered (from the 1851 census) that my great-great grandfather James Andrew HAYES had a step-son Charles CHAFFEY, and that his wife Catherine HARRIS had been married to a Thomas CHAFFEY.

More recently I discovered that Thomas Cheafey (sic) and Catherine Harris were married at St Thomas’s Church, Bristol, though I wasn’t able to discover the baptism of their son Charles Thomas.

James Hayes and Catherine had five children, one of whom, James Andrew Allen Hayes, was absent for a couple of censuses, but I knew from later censuses that he married Emily HEALLS, and has several children, some of whom died young. One of the children was bourn at Bourton, Somerset, so I thought I would look at the census there, and also look for Charles Chaffey in the 1841 and 1861 censuses. I found a Charles Chaffey, aged 3, staying with the family of James and Amelia PEARSE at Temple Cloud in 1841, but with no sign of his mother. I recorded it anyway, just in case. But in 1871 I found James Andrew Allen Hayes and his wife Emily staying at Flax Bourton, and with them was a cousin Sarah Pearse, aged 24, born in Temple Cloud, and that was clearly the same family that Charles Chaffey had been staying with, and he and Sarah were about the same ago. So now we need to find where the PEARSE family fit in, and how they are related. Possibly on the Harris side, but James Pearse was apparently born in Carhampton about 1801, and his wife Amelia was born in Staffordshire. While Catherine Harris’s mother Sarah was born in Caerphilly about 1779, while Catherine herself was born in Whitchurch, Glamorganshire, in about 1818

Katharine Mocine (1917-2010) RIP

We recently had news from Lois Haglund that her mother Katharine Mocine had died. The photo shows her on her wedding day in Republic, Michigan, USA, when she married David Mocine (1915-1993).

Though we never met, we were in correspondence with David and Katharine in the late 1980s and early 1990s, about the Green family history, and general topics. They then lived in Monticello, New Mexico.

David Mocine was Val’s third cousin once removed, and his ancestry, shown in the pedigree chart, show something of how the Green family were globalised. William Goodall Green was born in Canada, died in England. His son Edward Lister Green was born in Canada, married in Grahamstown, died in New Zealand, and the Rutherfurd branch moved to the USA. David and Katharine had six children, and grandchildren by all of them.

They also wrote a book, “Gila hunting: the saga of a New Mexico ranch family”, and wrote interesting letters about the trips they had taken to Mexico.

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MocineD.pdf (8 KB)

Nevard family in Essex

Yesterday we received the birth certificate of Val’s great great grandmother, Mary Nevard Morton (1843-1918), which revealed that her mother’s maiden name was Elizabeth Nevard.We had long had Mary Nevard Morton’s marriage certificate, which showed that she married August Decker at St Botolph’s Church in Colchester, Essex in 1856. The marriage certificate did not give her age, but merely described her as a “minor”, so we applied for her birth certificate in the period 1837-1840, and it was not found, so we assumed she had been married before the beginning of secular registration in 1837 — after all, she would still have been a minor if she had married in 1836. It was only finding her in the 1851 census that revealed just how minor she was — she married at 13 — and so enabled us to ask for the birth certificate in 1843.

So now, of course, we are looking for Elizabeth Nevard’s parents. According to the census she was born in Boxted, Essex, in about 1806, so we’ll be looking for a baptism record for her around then.