Green family in England, and Gray family in Canada

I’ve recentl;y had e-mails from Dennis and Penny Allen in England, who live in a house formerly owned by William Green, photographer, of Northumberland, son of William George Green. William George Green was the eldest son of William Goodall Green and Margaret Gray.

In the house are some photographs, and a book that William Green wrote to try to prove the alleged royal descent of William Goodall Green — that he was the son of Edward, Duke of Kent, Queen Victoria’s father.

Dennis and Penny are not related, but have very kindly sent copies of some of the material they have. We hope that it may help us to add some missing links to the Green family tree.

One of the things they sent was a reproduction of a picture of Alexander Gray, described as Attorney General. All we know of him is that his daughters changed their surname to Hamilton when their mother remarried after his death.

Does anyone know anything about the Hamilyon connection? If you do, please click on one of the places where it says “Comments” below, and enter your comments there.

12 Responses

  1. Hello,

    My name is William James. My gr gr gr great grandfather was Alexander Gray, Attorney General of Quebec !789-91. His wife married a Ferguson after his death. Possibly in old script Ferguson could be read as Hamilton.

    I would be very excited to obtain a copy of the picture of Alexander Gray (

  2. If you are descended from him, then you are probably related — can you give us any information of his descendants?

    I’ll need some time to check sources etc to see if there could be confusion between Hamilton and Ferguson.

  3. Alexander Gray’s wife was Magdelene (Lana) Johnson, daughter of Sir William Johnson (Johnstown Hall, New York)and Molly Brant Mohawk Indian. Magdalene married 2ndly John Ferguson (also listed as Farquharson) in 1791 in Kingston, Ontario.

    Thomas – son – Charles Gray
    Norwich, Ontario
    Elizabeth m. Robert Copeland

    Probable other chidren but not confirmed
    Alexander – Dundas St Toronto

    Do you know if any of this is connected to your family?

    Brant (Mohawk Indian)

  4. I have have checked your Goodall Green genealogy on line and see that your Alexander Gray is a different person from mine. So I have queried the source for my information and have just been told that it was “assumed” that ours was “possibly” the Attorney
    General as our Alexander was cousin to the Gray who became Solicitor General.

    I apologize for wasting your time.

  5. Not a waste of time at all, and worth following up.

    The earlier generations of the Gray family are pretty sketchy, and perahs there is a connection.

  6. My family has a connection to Alexander Gray, Atty. General of Quebec. My gggrandfather was Charles Gray Stewart. We believe that Atty. General Gray’s sister is Charles Gray Stewart’s mother. They lived in Quebec. Please contact me as soon as possible. Will be happy to share information.

    • That’s interesting.

      We have a Cecil Hollings Shipley Green who was born in New Zealand in 1870, then travelled to Canada and changed his name to Charles Stuart Green. He had a cousin who changed his name to William d’Este Stuart-Grey.

  7. My name is Juliet May Gould (nee Green) and I am a descendant of Alfred William Green, a younger brother of William George Green mentioned in your message. Would it be possible for you to forward copies of the material sent by Dennis and Penny Allen in England. My great grandfather, Alfred, moved to Australia to live. Hope you can help.

  8. Hello my name is Mark Alan Green. My ancestry traces to Van Cortlandt Manor to Thomas and Elizabeth Green. Now i have been having difficulty tracing Thomas’s ancestry past Van Cortlandt Manor. I strongly think that i directly trace back to the William Goodall mentioned above because my Great Grand parents were Giddeon And Mary Henrietta Green(her maiden name was Green). This may explain why i have been having issues using the greene lines a.k.a the green families with an e spelled at the end because i remember the researcher thats helping me said that Thomas was an immigrant. Now i’am thinking from Kent. I’am the one in my family with the most ties to the vere dynasty and cousin lineages of descent. I would happy to receive the information through e-mail.I would also like your opinion on the below reference if it is pretaining to Green lines, green family without the E spelled at the end. On my personal website has my complete family tree, starting with me and going back to Elizabeth and Thomas of Van Cortlandt Manor.

    regards, Mark Alan Green

    • No doubt you have a copy of “some descendants of three by the name of green in the loyalist corps the royal guides and pioneers”. I share your misery at not being successful beyond Thomas and Elizabeth of Cortlandt Manor. Other branches of the tree (by marriage) have proved very interesting, but do nothing to extend the direct (paternal) Green line. I am descended from Thomas,Henry, Joseph,John, Albert, Wilfred and finally Joyce, my mother. Not sure if we can help each other in this quest, but it is always interesting to find a kindred (literally) spirit.

  9. According to family research compiled by my ancestor, John D. Stewart, in 1885, Alexander Gray’ widow did marry a Hamilton after his death in 1791. My g-g-g grandfather married Mr. Gray’s sister and they had one child, Charles Gray Stewart. I would be happy to share information with you.

    • I’ve written directly by e-mail and sent you some family group sheets showing what we have on the Gray family. Would love to learn more.

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